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		<title>By: Christina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 00:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for taking the time to respond (twice!). :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for taking the time to respond (twice!). <img src='http://annie.paxye.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Annie</title>
		<link>http://annie.paxye.com/?p=2326&#038;cpage=1#comment-6142</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 21:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the second time I&#039;m writing this since my first attempt was deleted when my son clicked the page closed! 

Taking a child away from a difficult situation for comfort and reconnection is not the same as a time out. This is a really useful strategy, especially for small children.

I don&#039;t agree with &quot;teaching a lesson&quot; by withdrawing love, physically or emotionally, which is what time outs do. The lesson learned is that the child will not be loved or accepted until they change their behaviour. They have to change regardless of how they feel or what&#039;s going on for them inside because it&#039;s unacceptable or inconvenient for them to act how they feel. Children are immature beings and aren&#039;t always going to have the impulse control to manage their own emotions and reactions. They shouldn&#039;t be responsible for ours as well.

I think it&#039;s worth looking past the behaviour and focusing on what&#039;s going on for the child, as well as strengthening the relationship with the child by helping them through the difficult moment- unconditionally. Being upset or angry or any of these difficult, negative emotions are valid and shouldn&#039;t be censored. Helping them through the difficult moments with love and ease is a wonderful gift we can offer our children. Sometimes easier said than done but a worthy goal, if you ask me. 

The article I linked to is a good one: http://www.naturalchild.org/guest/peter_haiman.html

It sounds like your &quot;down time&quot; is lovely and peaceful. As your daughter gets older, she&#039;ll have her own ideas about how to spend her time. There may be a day when your daughter doesn&#039;t want to have a quiet time, or maybe you&#039;ll have another child that will never be willing to be still and quiet. I hope you will have the flexibility and willingness to work with your child&#039;s wants as well as your own. I hope your children never feel like they have to accommodate your wants just to please you or to keep you from being upset. 

I don&#039;t think children &quot;test&quot; adults. Children are little beings with their own feeling and needs somewhat separate from our own. &quot;All human actions are an attempt to meet needs.&quot; -- Marshall Rosenberg I think we should always try to assume positive intent behind our children&#039;s actions. Children, like ourselves aren&#039;t always going to know or do what&#039;s &quot;right&quot;. They&#039;re never going to be perfect and neither are we and yet parents often hold their children up to impossible standards. I think we all need to cut each other a little slack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the second time I&#8217;m writing this since my first attempt was deleted when my son clicked the page closed! </p>
<p>Taking a child away from a difficult situation for comfort and reconnection is not the same as a time out. This is a really useful strategy, especially for small children.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree with &#8220;teaching a lesson&#8221; by withdrawing love, physically or emotionally, which is what time outs do. The lesson learned is that the child will not be loved or accepted until they change their behaviour. They have to change regardless of how they feel or what&#8217;s going on for them inside because it&#8217;s unacceptable or inconvenient for them to act how they feel. Children are immature beings and aren&#8217;t always going to have the impulse control to manage their own emotions and reactions. They shouldn&#8217;t be responsible for ours as well.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s worth looking past the behaviour and focusing on what&#8217;s going on for the child, as well as strengthening the relationship with the child by helping them through the difficult moment- unconditionally. Being upset or angry or any of these difficult, negative emotions are valid and shouldn&#8217;t be censored. Helping them through the difficult moments with love and ease is a wonderful gift we can offer our children. Sometimes easier said than done but a worthy goal, if you ask me. </p>
<p>The article I linked to is a good one: <a href="http://www.naturalchild.org/guest/peter_haiman.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.naturalchild.org/guest/peter_haiman.html</a></p>
<p>It sounds like your &#8220;down time&#8221; is lovely and peaceful. As your daughter gets older, she&#8217;ll have her own ideas about how to spend her time. There may be a day when your daughter doesn&#8217;t want to have a quiet time, or maybe you&#8217;ll have another child that will never be willing to be still and quiet. I hope you will have the flexibility and willingness to work with your child&#8217;s wants as well as your own. I hope your children never feel like they have to accommodate your wants just to please you or to keep you from being upset. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think children &#8220;test&#8221; adults. Children are little beings with their own feeling and needs somewhat separate from our own. &#8220;All human actions are an attempt to meet needs.&#8221; &#8212; Marshall Rosenberg I think we should always try to assume positive intent behind our children&#8217;s actions. Children, like ourselves aren&#8217;t always going to know or do what&#8217;s &#8220;right&#8221;. They&#8217;re never going to be perfect and neither are we and yet parents often hold their children up to impossible standards. I think we all need to cut each other a little slack.</p>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
		<link>http://annie.paxye.com/?p=2326&#038;cpage=1#comment-6134</link>
		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 21:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curious, do you think all time outs are bad, or just the way our modern society seems to do them (time out mat included)?  I have a 22mo old and we&#039;ve been doing time outs for about 2 months now.  She doesn&#039;t get them often, but occassionally she will stike at me or start having a meltdown.  Our time outs are moving to a space (be it at home, outdoors or in public places) that takes her away from what she was just doing, is clear (or as clear as can be) from distractions, where we sit down together to cry a bit, get out any anger and calm down.  At first I didn&#039;t sit with her, but it felt more natural to stay right with her while she tried to work through the emotions.  I rub her back, if she lets me, tell her it&#039;s OK to be upset and she can let it out, then sooth her with &quot;let&#039;s settle down now.&quot;  It works pretty quickly and when she&#039;s ready, she gets up, eye to eye with me, I explain what she was not supposed to do (hit mama) or what she can do (use words/signs to communicate instead of getting frustrated) and we hug it out.  I know this isn&#039;t the more common way of doing time-outs, but it works for us to take a break from whatever it is that caused the digression and then work toward a loving solution together.  She is usually much more calm about telling me what she wants at that point.  
One thing we have started doing to help prevent these little scenarios it having late afternoon &quot;down time.&quot;  Around 5pm we head to her room for a rest (not nap) where she&#039;ll just lay there daydreaming, may grab a book, or ask me to lay with her for snuggles.  She seems to need that extra break in the day without stimulation.  I work most of the day, so we usually are on the go and/or playing together for the afternoon and she seems to just get worn down and cranky if I don&#039;t give her that break.  It&#039;s nice for me too, so I can either cuddle her and reconnect or get dinner started, etc.  Wow, I&#039;ve really rambled on...but i guess I just want to feel like I&#039;m doing right by my sweet girl, even when she&#039;s testing me!  Anyway, love your musings and recipes...keep it up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curious, do you think all time outs are bad, or just the way our modern society seems to do them (time out mat included)?  I have a 22mo old and we&#8217;ve been doing time outs for about 2 months now.  She doesn&#8217;t get them often, but occassionally she will stike at me or start having a meltdown.  Our time outs are moving to a space (be it at home, outdoors or in public places) that takes her away from what she was just doing, is clear (or as clear as can be) from distractions, where we sit down together to cry a bit, get out any anger and calm down.  At first I didn&#8217;t sit with her, but it felt more natural to stay right with her while she tried to work through the emotions.  I rub her back, if she lets me, tell her it&#8217;s OK to be upset and she can let it out, then sooth her with &#8220;let&#8217;s settle down now.&#8221;  It works pretty quickly and when she&#8217;s ready, she gets up, eye to eye with me, I explain what she was not supposed to do (hit mama) or what she can do (use words/signs to communicate instead of getting frustrated) and we hug it out.  I know this isn&#8217;t the more common way of doing time-outs, but it works for us to take a break from whatever it is that caused the digression and then work toward a loving solution together.  She is usually much more calm about telling me what she wants at that point.<br />
One thing we have started doing to help prevent these little scenarios it having late afternoon &#8220;down time.&#8221;  Around 5pm we head to her room for a rest (not nap) where she&#8217;ll just lay there daydreaming, may grab a book, or ask me to lay with her for snuggles.  She seems to need that extra break in the day without stimulation.  I work most of the day, so we usually are on the go and/or playing together for the afternoon and she seems to just get worn down and cranky if I don&#8217;t give her that break.  It&#8217;s nice for me too, so I can either cuddle her and reconnect or get dinner started, etc.  Wow, I&#8217;ve really rambled on&#8230;but i guess I just want to feel like I&#8217;m doing right by my sweet girl, even when she&#8217;s testing me!  Anyway, love your musings and recipes&#8230;keep it up!</p>
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		<title>By: Annie</title>
		<link>http://annie.paxye.com/?p=2326&#038;cpage=1#comment-6106</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks everyone for sharing your further thoughts! 

Kyrie- what a wonderful example! Working *with* your child to make the situation satisfactory for everyone. Being realistic about what to expect from him and getting creative. Thank you thank you for sharing.

Jo- you bring up a good point also. I remember my second blog post after starting this blog talking about the possible difficulties in using this medium to share my thoughts. A person can have many layers of thought on one topic but in the interest of space and simplicity share what&#039;s most important when it comes up in conversation (or when blogging). I&#039;m certainly more than I blog about, as are my thoughts.

You and I do some things differently and yet we are friends. We also have things in common. What&#039;s important is do we like to spend time together? If we do than it&#039;s easy to leave any arbitrary list of differences and similarities aside.

Steph- ah what a wonderful existence! I would love to live so simply. I have plenty of *stuff* now I could live without...

Krista- Thanks for reminding about assuming positive intent behind words or actions!

That&#039;s a wonderful idea about sharing more met needs around blogging. I&#039;ve shared throughout my blogging but maybe some intentional sharing in a post would be worth doing. 

Long live simplicity. Simple is sensible after all, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks everyone for sharing your further thoughts! </p>
<p>Kyrie- what a wonderful example! Working *with* your child to make the situation satisfactory for everyone. Being realistic about what to expect from him and getting creative. Thank you thank you for sharing.</p>
<p>Jo- you bring up a good point also. I remember my second blog post after starting this blog talking about the possible difficulties in using this medium to share my thoughts. A person can have many layers of thought on one topic but in the interest of space and simplicity share what&#8217;s most important when it comes up in conversation (or when blogging). I&#8217;m certainly more than I blog about, as are my thoughts.</p>
<p>You and I do some things differently and yet we are friends. We also have things in common. What&#8217;s important is do we like to spend time together? If we do than it&#8217;s easy to leave any arbitrary list of differences and similarities aside.</p>
<p>Steph- ah what a wonderful existence! I would love to live so simply. I have plenty of *stuff* now I could live without&#8230;</p>
<p>Krista- Thanks for reminding about assuming positive intent behind words or actions!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a wonderful idea about sharing more met needs around blogging. I&#8217;ve shared throughout my blogging but maybe some intentional sharing in a post would be worth doing. </p>
<p>Long live simplicity. Simple is sensible after all, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Mojavi at Simple Things</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mojavi at Simple Things</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 06:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved your useless items post! I am judgemental... but in the opposite way and I don&#039;t care who knows it.  Cribs are useless and if more woman realized we have arms and breasts that are meant to be used (and not just by men and the ad industry) the world would be a happier place...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved your useless items post! I am judgemental&#8230; but in the opposite way and I don&#8217;t care who knows it.  Cribs are useless and if more woman realized we have arms and breasts that are meant to be used (and not just by men and the ad industry) the world would be a happier place&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 5orangepotatoes</title>
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		<dc:creator>5orangepotatoes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 02:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never used a stroller for Fauna, rarely used one for Araina. No crib used around here, or highchair, or changing table, or bottle, HAD to use a carseat of course but felt bad for the babes in there so we didn&#039;t do a lot of car time when they were tiny. So I&#039;m so with you Annie and a lot of the commenters here.

lisa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never used a stroller for Fauna, rarely used one for Araina. No crib used around here, or highchair, or changing table, or bottle, HAD to use a carseat of course but felt bad for the babes in there so we didn&#8217;t do a lot of car time when they were tiny. So I&#8217;m so with you Annie and a lot of the commenters here.</p>
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